NLC 2011 July 9/10 Hvidovre, Denmark

mikaeljoe
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NLC 2011 July 9/10 Hvidovre, Denmark Jul 10, 2011 7:43:07 GMT

Post by mikaeljoe on Jul 10, 2011 7:43:07 GMT

Definitely the best NLCs this year so far.
I took these shots at 3 am. It was totally overcast earlier.

Panorama of 5 shots put together in Photoshop Elements 9 and its panorama function. Worked perfectly, only a slight crop at the end needed. Jupiter is visible to the far right.

Fuld resolution at 10065 x 3586.
www.coolcat.dk/images/nlc/2011/2011_07_09/2011_07_10_NLC_PanoramaL.jpg

5033 x 1793
www.coolcat.dk/images/nlc/2011/2011_07_09/2011_07_10_NLC_PanoramaM.jpg

2517 x 897
www.coolcat.dk/images/nlc/2011/2011_07_09/2011_07_10_NLC_PanoramaS.jpg

A couple of shots zoomed in. I've never seen these 'holes' in NLCs before.

mesospheric
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NLC 2011 July 9/10 Hvidovre, Denmark Jul 10, 2011 10:53:22 GMT

Post by mesospheric on Jul 10, 2011 10:53:22 GMT

Superb photography! As for the 'holes', they have sometimes been given the informal name 'lacunosus'. Sometimes, such small holes may appear, but I suspect that in the main, these features are actually more like mammatus. You can see a detailed image of very similar features at about 2m12s into this BBC audio slideshow made from my images back in 2010:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-10635796

Bill W
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NLC 2011 July 9/10 Hvidovre, Denmark Jul 10, 2011 12:17:27 GMT

Post by Bill W on Jul 10, 2011 12:17:27 GMT

Hi,

The pictures are great. I'm very interested in the holes you report. I've been chasing these for a while. If you look back through some of the older general nlc posts you'll find out more about this occurence. (Top of page 4, Jul 30 2008.)
I had a vague impression of them here last night too but there was too much high cloud for me to be sure.

If you look at the short video on youtube I posted from last weekend (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I26xnuxUtVE) with the nlc near overhead you can see a more open "holey" structure.

This may or may not be the same type of structure as seen from a better viewing angle but the video shows lacanosus by definition of the holey or net structure. If it is the same sort of thing it doesn't look like mamatus, at least to me.

However keeping an open mind I'd like to hear more about the mamatus idea. What's the thinking?

Cheers,
Bill.

Bill W
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NLC 2011 July 9/10 Hvidovre, Denmark Jul 10, 2011 12:38:57 GMT

Post by Bill W on Jul 10, 2011 12:38:57 GMT

Hello again,

Upon studying your pictures a bit more closely it's surprising how similar they are to the one I put up in 2008. With the holes forming around a distinct dense twisted feature.
Excellent stuff!

If you see these again, experiment with a range exposures (even if you over expose other parts of the clouds) to try and get a nice bright image of the holes and the immediate surroundings.
good hunting.
Bill.

markt Moderator Posts: 728	NLC 2011 July 9/10 Hvidovre, Denmark Jul 11, 2011 6:15:38 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by markt on Jul 11, 2011 6:15:38 GMT Brilliant stuff Mikael!

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Post by Bill W on Jul 10, 2011 12:17:27 GMT

Post by Bill W on Jul 10, 2011 12:38:57 GMT

Post by markt on Jul 11, 2011 6:15:38 GMT